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I'm no Teddy Bear

THOTH

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Pucker the Teddy Bear...NO THANKS !!
Political correctness has been taken too far.
The Marxist have hijacked American history and dumbed us all down to the level of their minions. "Rebel" offends those who view the American Civil War solely through the prism of slavery.
The slavery only argument is overly simplistic and ignores several factors....
*** Mississippi never declared war on the federal government, the federal government made war on Mississippi.
*** Slavery itself was only a component of the true cause of the war which was the ongoing power struggle between the central government versus the state.
*** Sherman's march to the sea, among other war crimes vindicated the Southerners who favored secession. They feared the federal government would be hijacked by a radical element and they were proved correct.
There were no Union casualties during the firing on of Fort Sumter. The first blood was on Lincoln's hands when he invaded the sovereign state of Virgina.
*** The party of Lincoln was not egalitarian and had no interest in fighting a war for such aims as the slavery only argument claims. Tell native Americans how egalitarian the Republicans were in the 19th century.
Thomas Jefferson's grandsons were Rebels, not Yankees. ( Davis' Sectary of War 1862). Many claim the North's war was to uphold Jefferson's ideal of all men created equal. not so !
*** At the very beginning Lincoln made it clear that war's aim was preserve the Union, not end slavery. The "slavery only" crowd have to claim Lincoln reached an epiphany mid-war to make abolition a cause.
*** The federal government more or less abandoned the US Constitution in the war. We were an republic at the time and in a republic states have rights. Again vindicating the Southern secessionist fears. Habeas Carpus was denied, those who disagreed with Lincoln jailed, special war powers proclaimed. States invaded...property destroyed.
*** after the war, few in the North actually wanted these freedmen. Why fight a war for someone you want nothing to do with?
*** Those who proclaim the Southern leaders as tyrants or radicals never read much on the founding fathers of the USA.

To deny the South their collective memory of the American Civil War is nothing short a bigotry.
These same bigots are the very same ones forcing a teddy bear on the university.
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or so I suspect.
 
Nor am I a Teddy Graham, excuse me, Teddy Bear.

I might add (again) that not all on the Left favour this rubbish that has been pushed on us. Nor are all those on the Left, Marxists or Socialists. I consider myself a Democrat here and Labour in the UK (both Left) and I vehemently oppose this absolute travesty.


"The Night, Dan Jones drove Ole Miss down, and most of the people were singing, they went 'NO NO NO NO NO, NO NO NO NO NO!'......"
 
Originally posted by THOTH:
Pucker the Teddy Bear...NO THANKS !!
Political correctness has been taken too far.
The Marxist have hijacked American history and dumbed us all down to the level of their minions. "Rebel" offends those who view the American Civil War solely through the prism of slavery.
The slavery only argument is overly simplistic and ignores several factors....
*** Mississippi never declared war on the federal government, the federal government made war on Mississippi.
*** Slavery itself was only a component of the true cause of the war which was the ongoing power struggle between the central government versus the state.
*** Sherman's march to the sea, among other war crimes vindicated the Southerners who favored secession. They feared the federal government would be hijacked by a radical element and they were proved correct.
There were no Union casualties during the firing on of Fort Sumter. The first blood was on Lincoln's hands when he invaded the sovereign state of Virgina.
*** The party of Lincoln was not egalitarian and had no interest in fighting a war for such aims as the slavery only argument claims. Tell native Americans how egalitarian the Republicans were in the 19th century.
Thomas Jefferson's grandsons were Rebels, not Yankees. ( Davis' Sectary of War 1862). Many claim the North's war was to uphold Jefferson's ideal of all men created equal. not so !
*** At the very beginning Lincoln made it clear that war's aim was preserve the Union, not end slavery. The "slavery only" crowd have to claim Lincoln reached an epiphany mid-war to make abolition a cause.
*** The federal government more or less abandoned the US Constitution in the war. We were an republic at the time and in a republic states have rights. Again vindicating the Southern secessionist fears. Habeas Carpus was denied, those who disagreed with Lincoln jailed, special war powers proclaimed. States invaded...property destroyed.
*** after the war, few in the North actually wanted these freedmen. Why fight a war for someone you want nothing to do with?
*** Those who proclaim the Southern leaders as tyrants or radicals never read much on the founding fathers of the USA.

To deny the South their collective memory of the American Civil War is nothing short a bigotry.
These same bigots are the very same ones forcing a teddy bear on the university.
clown.gif
or so I suspect.

I take issue with your statement regarding the founding fathers. How much have you read regarding the foundidng fathers?
 
In what ways do your disagree ?
I'm not saying that I disagree with the founding fathers, just that the Confederate leaders were in fact, no different. So if one trashes Jefferson Davis, one must also trash Jefferson. Defame Lee, then one must also defame Washington.
There is a double standard in some circles in which the founding fathers were "heroes" to leave the union, but their grandsons were "villains" for leaving Lincoln's union in 1861. If one considers Lincoln the hero for preserving the union, then one must be consistent with George III for preserving his union.
As for the slavery thing, I think I previously covered that one.
 
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