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OT: RebelGrove Lib's and Never Trumper's Russian Hoax Greatest Hits Thread

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To be consistent with Trump's messaging.

Beginning of the end for the Trump administration.

We shall see, but if you start seeing GOP senators start to bail (might have seen the beginning of it with the Saudi Arabia-Yemen vote), then we can begin talking about impeachment proceedings.

I would say to the reality remark that those of you who ignore the piles of evidence that is already in the public eye are the ones living in an alternate universe. You guys are waiting for Mueller's report to explicitly prove collusion when in reality, it doesn't have to to find that Trump was in the wrong. Him simply trying to control and spy on the investigation is grounds for obstruction of justice.

The parallels to what Nixon did are staggering.

It’s going to be interesting, from a historian’s perspective, to see what the straw is that breaks the proverbial camel’s back.

Figuratively giving Putin a handjob in Helsinki hasn’t done it (for any more than a few).

Goodbye Donald


proof of trump campaign ties to russia:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/trump-russia-timeline/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/polit...ssociates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/donald-trumps-russian-marginalia-problem



"the factual proof of the pay for play in the Clinton Foundation"

source this


"the lies about Benghazi"

let's hear 'em...not that its relevant at all to the discussion at hand....for fvck's sake - can you address the topic without resorting to "well hillary did this!", "well obama did this!", "well JFK did this!"??


"Btw, it has been confirmed that Obama spied on Trump."

source this


"Furthermore, explain to us how Russia influenced the confound the electorate in voting for Trump"

not sure what language that is but they coordinated the dissemination of damaging info on clinton/the DNC and its been shown(links above) that they were coordinating....have you been paying attention??

Michael Cohen 'testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime,' lawyer Lanny Davis says https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/mic...rected-him-to-commit-a-crime-lawyer-says.html

Not a good day for America.

Claiming the real victims in this are the people who supported a gold-plated realty TV star bigot traitor for Comader and Chief is quite a take.

Yes, he is a traitor.

From a previous post:

Per Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution
:

“Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

Trump worked with Russia to undermine American democracy. In return, he has put his debts to Putin above our Nation:

Trump gave highly-classified Israeli intelligence to Russian officials.

Trump has refused to consistently acknowledge that Russia interfered in the U.S. election or mobilize a government-wide effort to stop future interference.

The U.S. president elected with Russian help is not just parroting Russia’s own propaganda but actually offering excuses for Russian aggression that not even Russia has made.

Like no previous president, Trump attacks and undermines the Justice Department and the FBI (“a cancer in our country”) — two institutions that stand on the front lines of combatting Russian espionage and influence operations in the United States

Again, like no previous president, Trump attacks and undermines the European Union and NATO — he has suggested that France should leave the E.U. and that the United States should leave NATO, reportedly saying, “NATO is as bad as NAFTA.” The E.U. and NATO are the two major obstacles to Russian designs in Europe.

Trump supports populist, pro-Russian leaders in Europe, such as Viktor Orban in Hungary and Marine Le Pen in France, just as the Russians do.

Trump defends the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and repeats other pro-Russian talking points.

Trump is sowing chaos in the government, most recently with a record-breaking partial government shutdown and “acting” appointees in key posts such as the Defense Department and Justice Department, thus furthering a Russian objective of undermining its chief adversary.
(And yes, this is his shutdown. He only tried pass this widely unpopular legislation until after he no longer controlled the house and said it would be "his shutdown".)

And the biggest one that never get's talked about: Is Trump undermining America’s most persuasive form of global power? (Trump has sent America's Soft Power index in retreat. Yes, this is a big deal.)
And that’s what we know BEFORE Muller’s report. This was laid bare during the debates, but because a liberal woman said it, you guys didn’t learn a thing.

So here we are.

Government closed. Americans suffering. Airports shutting down. Debt at a new high. Allies alienated. National security is grave danger by a shuttered FBI. Commander in Chief parroting a hostile foreign leader’s talking points like a real bottom bitch.

God bless America.

wonder if he'll roll over on pops? [laughing]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/...-email-clinton.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Russian Dirt on Clinton? ‘I Love It,’ Donald Trump Jr. Said
By JO BECKER, ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZOJULY 11, 2017

"The June 3, 2016, email sent to Donald Trump Jr. could hardly have been more explicit: One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was offering to provide the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

If the future president’s elder son was surprised or disturbed by the provenance of the promised material — or the notion that it was part of an ongoing effort by the Russian government to aid his father’s campaign — he gave no indication.

He replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

Four days later, after a flurry of emails, the intermediary wrote back, proposing a meeting in New York on Thursday with a “Russian government attorney.”

Donald Trump Jr. agreed, adding that he would likely bring along “Paul Manafort (campaign boss)” and “my brother-in-law,” Jared Kushner, now one of the president’s closest White House advisers.

On June 9, the Russian lawyer was sitting in the younger Mr. Trump’s office on the 25th floor of Trump Tower, just one level below the office of the future president.

Over the last several days, The New York Times has disclosed the existence of the meeting, whom it involved and what it was about. The story has unfolded as The Times has been able to confirm details of the meetings.

But the email exchanges, which were reviewed by The Times, offer a detailed unspooling of how the meeting with the Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, came about — and just how eager Donald J. Trump was to accept what he was explicitly told was the Russian government’s help.

The Justice Department, as well as the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, is examining whether any of President Trump’s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year’s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government tried to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.

The precise nature of the promised damaging information about Mrs. Clinton is unclear, and there is no evidence to suggest that it was related to Russian-government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails. But in recent days, accounts by some of the central organizers of the meeting, including Donald Trump Jr., have evolved or have been contradicted by the written email records."

There is proven Communication between Kushie, Trump Jr and Michael Flynn with Russia and here's a good link for you to follow the investigation of who's been arrest and all
In regards to your no collision BS. Again either there is collision, or Trump is really really stupid and his actions yesterday prove that. Even newt gingrich admitted that on Twitter. Neither is acceptable. Now to your words "The problem is that you and the media and dems can't dissociate 'Russiam' (HA) meddling from collusion." And my response is... you know what would be really nice??? If Trump would confront Putin about that Russian Meddling you just admitted to, you know act like a Republican President.... but why isn't he??? Why is he bending over to Putin and Russia (Could it be the pee tape??)?? So @RebelMD is Trump a colluding traitor or Just Plain Stupid???

You support a traitor

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