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think there could be a huge number of coaches fired after this season? consider the following

1. Kevin Sumlin A&M he's out.
2. Brett Bilema Arkansas Gone
3. Gus Malzhan Auburn might go to Arkansas but won.t be fired at Auburn
4.Jim Mcelwain Florida He's gone
5. Butch Jones Tennessee He's gone
6. Ed Orgeron LSU safe due to huge buyout but probably not the long term answer but he's safe for now.
7.Matt Luke Ole Miss to be determined by the severity of NCAA sanctions
8 Mike riley Nebraska Done
9. Jim Mora jr. UCLA Replaced by Chip Kelly


10.Lovie Smith Illinois he's 2-9 ans winless in the BIG10. He's done IMHO

The above are off the top of my head and it is still early. Also realize that some on this list will in all probability turn things around.
 
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Yes. Sumlin is on the way out, Malzahn and Bieliema will be too if they have 1 or 2 more bad losses.

Orgeron can only last so long, if he's canned this season and beats OM, he will likely be their coach next year.
 
I'll keep it in the SEC I say Sumlin, Orgeron, Jones and Luke are locks. If Bielema beats OM and LSU he will get another year. Auburn's loss to Clemson was made out to be worse than it actually was and the iron bowl decides the west. I wonder if UGA has grown tired of Smart's antics and lack of preparation?
 
Don't know about Luke

Luke is not a big name/star. Not going to steal the spotlight bjork so loves for himself

If he does anything at all, I think he survives for the reason noted above.
 
If you fire Luke, who are you going to get to replace him? The Ole Miss job right now is like trying to sell a brand new car.....that doesn't have an engine. Not many takers.
 
If you fire Luke, who are you going to get to replace him? The Ole Miss job right now is like trying to sell a brand new car.....that doesn't have an engine. Not many takers.
we will hire mullet away from you and he will immediatly start paying recruits to sign with ole miss, just like he bought redmond, simmons, lewis and jones. how does that strike you..........
 
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we will hire mullet away from you and he will immediatly start paying recruits to sign with ole miss, just like he bought redmond, simmons, lewis and jones. how does that strike you..........

It strikes me that you'd rather blame Miss State for your problems than take responsibility for them. What does or does not happen in Starkville is none of your business.
 
It strikes me that you'd rather blame Miss State for your problems than take responsibility for them. What does or does not happen in Starkville is none of your business.
"What does or does not happen in Starkville is none of your business"

Same logic applies to you regarding matters in Oxford.
 
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Actually what happens in Oxford is the NCAA's business. Looks like business is good, too.
Never said it wasn't the NCAA's, just said it wasn't yours. Keyword in your last sentence is "looks".. you know nothing nor does anyone else. Let's see what comes out in October/November, sincerely hope you're utterly disappointed with the results. However, at least it will all be concluded and you will no longer have reason to lurk around here. You'll have to find some new "business then"
 
Never said it wasn't the NCAA's, just said it wasn't yours. Keyword in your last sentence is "looks".. you know nothing nor does anyone else. Let's see what comes out in October/November, sincerely hope you're utterly disappointed with the results. However, at least it will all be concluded and you will no longer have reason to lurk around here. You'll have to find some new "business then"

I never said it was my business, sport.

Here's what I know: I know that Ole Miss had to appear before the Committee on Infractions a few days ago, and that sanctions will likely be announced at the end of the season. I also know that a former player of yours admitted that Ole Miss paid him. I also know that Ole Miss has admitted to committing NCAA violations and has already self-imposed penalties.

I know that Ole Miss football is going to continue to be irrelevant for the next 15-20 years as a result of the coming sanctions.

What I don't know is if the sanctions will cause the Ole Miss program to do some soul-searching and realize they need to take responsibility for their own actions. If they do, then long-term this could actually be a good thing for the program.

Given how most Ole Miss fans here want to point fingers at Starkvegas and continue to defend the AD and Freeze, I doubt that will happen.
 
I never said it was my business, sport.

Here's what I know: I know that Ole Miss had to appear before the Committee on Infractions a few days ago, and that sanctions will likely be announced at the end of the season. I also know that a former player of yours admitted that Ole Miss paid him. I also know that Ole Miss has admitted to committing NCAA violations and has already self-imposed penalties.

I know that Ole Miss football is going to continue to be irrelevant for the next 15-20 years as a result of the coming sanctions.

What I don't know is if the sanctions will cause the Ole Miss program to do some soul-searching and realize they need to take responsibility for their own actions. If they do, then long-term this could actually be a good thing for the program.

Given how most Ole Miss fans here want to point fingers at Starkvegas and continue to defend the AD and Freeze, I doubt that will happen.
Here's what i know sport, an active member of the MSU football team has admitted to accepting money. Let's see how it all shakes out in the end. Until then, no need to speculate or even discuss. Agreed?
 
Here's what i know sport, an active member of the MSU football team has admitted to accepting money. Let's see how it all shakes out in the end. Until then, no need to speculate or even discuss. Agreed?

What Miss State does or does not do is none of your business. Miss State didn't appear before the COI, Ole Miss did. And no active MSU football player has admitted to taking any money. A former Ole Miss player HAS admitted to taking money from Ole Miss.

No need to speculate or even discuss? Hell that's what you just did, sport LOL But yeah, since your program has the Death Penalty dangling over it's head, I can see how you'd want to just stop talking about it.

Good luck with that, sport.
 
What Miss State does or does not do is none of your business. Miss State didn't appear before the COI, Ole Miss did. And no active MSU football player has admitted to taking any money. A former Ole Miss player HAS admitted to taking money from Ole Miss.

No need to speculate or even discuss? Hell that's what you just did, sport LOL But yeah, since your program has the Death Penalty dangling over it's head, I can see how you'd want to just stop talking about it.

Good luck with that, sport.
I appreciate your concern and wishing us good fortune. I think we'll be ok in the long run. Have a great day sport, I have to get back to work.
 
Yes, ole miss will be fine in the "long run".

But we are a mid level program, and with scholarships being reduced, ticket sales and donations falling off, lack of success on the field, and a poorly run athletic department, it will take years.

And we can forget attracting a big name coach.

This is going to make the Oregeron years seem like the good old days
 
Yes, ole miss will be fine in the "long run".

But we are a mid level program, and with scholarships being reduced, ticket sales and donations falling off, lack of success on the field, and a poorly run athletic department, it will take years.

And we can forget attracting a big name coach.

This is going to make the Oregeron years seem like the good old days
Just need to make sure we hire the right coach
 
Actually what happens in Oxford is the NCAA's business. Looks like business is good, too.
I almost never get into these stupid banterings in these blogs but by God i'm sick an tired of your bullshit mr!!you are an egotistical frigging idiot And there is not one trace of decency or Christianity in you..and you Know It..
 
coach o's buyout is of no concern to LSU as it will be covered by the TAF. Not saying he will be fired or retained after this season but the buyout will in no way influence the decision. If Joe Aleva (sp) is fired coach O will also be gone.
 
LSU hasn't ever accepted Saban's leaving imho. I dk but I doubt they will ever be 14-0 in my lifetime and in the time of the realization of parity, a ncaa goal 30 years ago, I don't see their dissatisfaction.
 
Bielema has a huge buyout that is about $15M, although that is chump change among the Walmarts, Tysons, and Stephens Bank supporters. Orgeron will need some Cajun voodoo too get him off the hot seat. Once again here is another big buyout. Orgeron’s buyout following the 2017 season is $12 million, and that number will drop to $8.5 million in 2018, $6 million in 2019 and $4.5 million in 2020.
 
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It strikes me that you'd rather blame Miss State for your problems than take responsibility for them. What does or does not happen in Starkville is none of your business.
thats what i keep telling YOU, what happens at ole miss is NONE of YOUR business, but YOU insist on running your BIG mouth over something that is none of your business.
 
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thats what i keep telling YOU, what happens at ole miss is NONE of YOUR business, but YOU insist on running your BIG mouth over something that is none of your business.

Sure it's my business, I'm part of the PUBLIC, and when the NCAA makes their findings PUBLIC, that makes it MY business.
 
Sure it's my business, I'm part of the PUBLIC, and when the NCAA makes their findings PUBLIC, that makes it MY business.
Wow, you are almost too stupid to have a conversation with. Ole Miss is your business because you are obsessed. We need to not worry about you leghumpers because they aren't in the public?
 
He cannot stay away from here. They will get theirs and we will never hear from the a$$hole again.
Screw State and Genepage. What a bunch of losers.
 
think there could be a huge number of coaches fired after this season? consider the following

1. Kevin Sumlin ATM right now his chance of keeping his job is 35% at best.
2. Brett Bilema Arkansas 30% or less. He's gone barring a huge turnaround.
3. Gus Malzhan Auburn 40%
4.Jim Mcelwain Florida could happen but he now has a little breathing room
5. Butch Jones Tennessee all but done after UMass game IMHO
6. Ed Orgeron LSU if things don't change he's likely out
7.Matt Luke Ole Miss to be determined
8 Mike riley Nebraska all but done
9. Jim Mora jr. UCLA Don't see how he's back next year


The above are off the top of my head and it is still early. Also realize that some on this list will in all probability turn things around.

Yes, I believe Jim Mora Jr, Butch Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Brett Bilema, and Matt Luke will all lose their current head coaching positions at the end of the season. Mike Riley is iffy, but I would not be surprised if he bit the dust either. There is going to be quite a bit of movement of head coaches this season in Division I football.
 
Yes, I believe Jim Mora Jr, Butch Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Brett Bilema, and Matt Luke will all lose their current head coaching positions at the end of the season. Mike Riley is iffy, but I would not be surprised if he bit the dust either. There is going to be quite a bit of movement of head coaches this season in Division I football.

No one will take the Ole Miss job, why would they?
 
I surely don’t want to be mistaken for a general supporter of the Becker, but I think he is right.

This is what we have to offer-

A program already with self imposed sanctions

A program about to receive even more ncaa sanctions

(And depending, some players tranferring)

A program that is short of defensive talent.

A program coming off a poor 2017 recruiting class, and possibly a worse one in 2018.

A program where ticket sales and donations are falling off.

A program with an incompetent A D and a tentative Chancellor.

A hot young coach will have lots of options. Why would he choose us?

Yes, it’s true we might be able to offer 5 million.

(Although with tickets and donations down, I wonder)

But a young coach in demand can get that money many places.

Oxford, we have a problem.
 
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I surely don’t want to be mistaken for a general supporter of the Becker, but I think he is right.

This is what we have to offer-

A program already with self imposed sanctions

A program about to receive even more ncaa sanctions

(And depending, some players tranferring)

A program that is short of defensive talent.

A program coming off a poor 2017 recruiting class, and possibly a worse one in 2018.

A program where ticket sales and donations are falling off.

A program with an incompetent A D and a tentative Chancellor.

A hot young coach will have lots of options. Why would he choose us?

Yes, it’s true we might be able to offer 5 million.

(Although with tickets and donations down, I wonder)

But a young coach in demand can get that money many places.

Oxford, we have a problem.

OM's options are going to be limited, depending on the sanctions. Why would a hot young coach come to OM, a school that is going to be handicapped by scholarship numbers, possibly mass transfers being allowed, for a hot young coach it's a career killing job. That would limit the options to young coaches who are so hot and older coaches looking to find a place to finish their careers. No one is going to be happy with Les Miles, Ole Bert will likely be looking for a job, Sumlin too, but they haven't won enough to not get fired without sanctions. If Bob Stoops could somehow be convinced to come, it would be his last stop, he isn't looking to build a resume, he would be a great option. Otherwise its an old retread coach who has never done much anywhere and been fired multiple times.
 
I surely don’t want to be mistaken for a general supporter of the Becker, but I think he is right.

This is what we have to offer-

A program already with self imposed sanctions

A program about to receive even more ncaa sanctions

(And depending, some players tranferring)

A program that is short of defensive talent.

A program coming off a poor 2017 recruiting class, and possibly a worse one in 2018.

A program where ticket sales and donations are falling off.

A program with an incompetent A D and a tentative Chancellor.

A hot young coach will have lots of options. Why would he choose us?

Yes, it’s true we might be able to offer 5 million.

(Although with tickets and donations down, I wonder)

But a young coach in demand can get that money many places.

Oxford, we have a problem.

The question for Ole Miss isn't "Who can we get as coach next year?", it's "Who can we get to be our coach ten years from now?"

THAT is the question you need to be addressing. Your program is dead for now. The smart move would be to ACCEPT that and build for the future.

You can start by cleaning house, firing the president and the AD, and hire replacements that will do things the right way, and who will tell your boosters that got you into your current mess to go pound sand.

Then you start fund-raising. You make sure your facilities are top notch, and you sell this to your boosters that A+ facilities are the only way you can get a decent coach in 10 years.

Do all that, and in 10 years if you can offer a HCing position at Ole Miss that has state of the art facilities, a stud AD and president, then pair that with a decent salary and you've given yourself a fighting chance to get a decent coach.
 
The question for Ole Miss isn't "Who can we get as coach next year?", it's "Who can we get to be our coach ten years from now?"

THAT is the question you need to be addressing. Your program is dead for now. The smart move would be to ACCEPT that and build for the future.

You can start by cleaning house, firing the president and the AD, and hire replacements that will do things the right way, and who will tell your boosters that got you into your current mess to go pound sand.

Then you start fund-raising. You make sure your facilities are top notch, and you sell this to your boosters that A+ facilities are the only way you can get a decent coach in 10 years.

Do all that, and in 10 years if you can offer a HCing position at Ole Miss that has state of the art facilities, a stud AD and president, then pair that with a decent salary and you've given yourself a fighting chance to get a decent coach.
LOL at 10 years from now. Not bad, bobbi.
 
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