Shea's possible departure
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He played meaningful minutes (started) in 5 games (and one drive vs LSU). If you want an accurate comparison (which I am certain that you do not), then you would compare apples to apples.
Patterson played in 7 games, Taamu played in 8. Those are facts.
Passing yards per game:
Patterson - 323
Taamu - 210
Passing yards:
Patterson - 2259
Taamu - 1682
Passing TDs:
Patterson - 17
Taamu - 11
Patterson clearly had a better season, it's not even debatable.
Of course. It's typical to include games in which a QB did not attempt a pass into a passing average.
Actually, it's completely typical.
Even if you want to remove the games where Taamu played but didn't complete a pass, Patterson still threw for 43 more yards a game.
And more TDs. Still waiting on the explanation for how Taamu had a better season....
It's simple. Ta'amu hide a higher completion percentage, higher yards-per-attempt, and a higher QB rating.
So you think those stats are more important than passing yards and passing TDs, ie actually putting points on the scoreboard?
Or are you just picking those stats because they are the only ones Taamu did better at?
I think it's the latter. And keep in mind that Patterson faced tougher competition as starter than Taamu did. He played Bama, Auburn, Cal at Cal, and LSU as starter. Taamu's toughest game as a starter was probably MSU.
I think certain OM fans need to support a narrative that Patterson left because he thought he had lost his starting job, instead of facing the reality that he likely left because he felt the OM staff wasn't honest with him and his family about the NCAA investigation.
Because it they allow it, they set a precedence for every player who was told one thing and then it not come true to transfer out because they were "lied to"
Coach: Son we are going to feature you at tailback. You are getting 25 touches a game and will be up for the heisman by your sophomore year.
Freshman year finishes with him averaging 4 touches a game and no one knows who he is.
Player: Coach you lied to me i'm transferring and the NCAA will grant me a waiver cause you lied to me.
But i don't really expect you to see how granting these waivers will cause a problem.
You're forgetting that Ole Miss has already said any player can transfer that wants with no restrictions from them.
In your above hypothetical, do you think it's better for OM to force a kid that feels that OM lied to him to stay on the team and play for those coaches? All he's going to do is complain about the coaches lying to him to his teammates and it's going to lead to fights and possibly even more players turning on the coaches.
I'm not an OM fan, so I hope you force every kid that wants to leave to stay there LOL
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The precedent has already been set, PSU players were allowed to transfer without sitting after the Sandusky sanctions. I don't think any opposing coaches few into town to recruit there guys like Hairball did, but this isn't the first time it happened. You are talking about not getting playing time, not program changing sanctions that coaches knew were possible.
You are really this stupid aren't you? I'm not talking about Ole Miss. Ole Miss doesn't have anything to do with the waiver. The NCAA has a rule in place that if you transfer to another school you have to sit a year, with a couple of exceptions like the grad transfer thing. The NCAA said students who are going to be seniors can transfer without sitting. The players transferring are not seniors therefor by the NCAA rule they have to sit a year. Doesn't make a crap if they were lied to or not. Most players that do transfer feel they were lied to in some form or fashion lol. They can lawyer up and go after the NCAA but i'm pretty sure it will get drug out way past next season if they do. Any underclassman that transfers has to apply for a special waiver to be able to play next year. They can be on scholarship and it can be treated as a redshirt year but for them to actually play in a game they have to have the waiver. If the NCAA does that then they are going to have to let every player that isn't happy with what he is told by coaches transfer without penalty.
You are right, they did allow penn state to do so. It was laid out in their sanctions that any player could. Ole Miss sanctions are laid out that any upcoming senior can transfer. Not sure why people don't understand this.
You also have to remember that when these players committed and signed only one LOI had been received and the second investigation hadn't even started. There literally was no way of knowing what the second LOI was going to have cause no one knew the investigation would be reopened at the time.
But they DID know what was in the first NOA, and as this tweet suggests, Ole Miss wasn't very honest about its contents....
Pretty obvious that they didn't tell the 2016 class what was in it and then not tell the media, because a recruit could have just told them the truth.
This is why I laugh at some of you trying to blame the kids when it is obvious that OM wasn't upfront with them. They received the first NOA on Jan 22, 2016, about 2 weeks before NSD. But they weren't required to make it public till AFTER NSD, which is what they did.
Or the NCAA could agree with the OM players that OM wasn't upfront with them about the sanctions, and let them go. Easy peasey.
Those are some of the stats. You also look at passing yards, passing TDs, and more importantly, who he played.
The stats in totality point to Patterson having a better season. I think you'd agree with that if he hadn't just transferred.
Patterson is an elite talent. He will be missed. It wouldn't matter because we couldn't go to a bowl anyway. He did what his parents thought was best for him and i wish him luck. You could tell he was done while standing on the sidelines watching his backup play. He wasn't happy that the team was having success without him. Many QB's are like that. They don't want to give up the spotlight. It's expected, you want your QB to be the focus of the team and the leader. Leaders aren't happy when they can't lead.
That's because it was always about HIM! Patterson is a spoiled brat that thinks the starting job should be his automatically. He is a spoiled brat because he was raised by a spoiled brat. Expect team chemistry to improve after he leaves.
I mean he bounced around high schools trying to be on the perfect team so it really shouldn't surprise people for him to do it in college.
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