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Where the Grove Collective stands compared to other Collectives

I believe that one of the best way to tell but in to a collective is social media followers. It of course won't be a 1-1 followers to members ratio, but I'd bet money the social media of these collectives with more followers will have more monthly reoccurring members.

I have been in a deep dive into what is the social media followings for big time programs and this is what I came up with.

SEC school
1. Alabama- Yeah Alabama 7.5k followers
2.Arkansas- Arkansas Edge 3.3k followers
3. Auburn- On To Victory 7.4k followers
4.Florida- Florida Victorious 14.6k followers
5. Georgia- Classic City Collective 2.6k followers
6. Kentucky- The 15 club 1.6k followers
7. LSU- Bayou Traditions- 1.3k followers
8. Mississippi State- Bulldog Initiative can't see follower count, I'm blocked
9. Mizzou- Every True tiger 738 followers
10. Ole Miss- The Grove Collective 13.5k followers
11. Oklahoma- Crimson and Cream 4.6k followers
12. South Carolina- Carolina Rise 1.9k followed
13. Tennessee- The Volunteer Club 8k followers
14. Texas- Texas One Fund 2.9k followers
15. Texas ATM- Texas Aggies United 5.3k followers
16. Vandy- Anchor Impact 946 followers

These numbers all come from Twitter. The most surprising is Missouri. Seems like it's just big boosters supporting their NIL, which makes me think it is not sustainable.

Other Non SEC schools:

Michigan- Champions Circle 1.8k followers
Ohio state- THE foundation 9k followers
Penn state- Happy Valley United 4.4k followers
Oregon- Ducks Rising 3.6k followers
Washington- 1861 Foundation 1.6k followers


I think is just the testament of what Walker Jones has done getting the message out. The only comparable collective from a follower standpoint. We have the following to move us into the next tier. Many big schools are still behind, apparently Ohio states collective is still a nonprofit ran by Cardale Jones....

We take that next leap as small donators we can really rise to the elite levels. We get to ten thousand reoccurring members that gives us the guaranteed cashflow that not only encourages the boosters to donate more, but to also give the collective some flexibility to expect to spend on high school during the summertime biddings for elite prospects.

Let's push this momentum into the next year. Spread the message. We have an elite collective not only from a marketing standpoint but from a branding standpoint. Let's take that next step!

Any ideas..

On how to fix the NCAA before it goes to collective bargaining. Could “the great split” save them before it’s too late?

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NCAA has hardly any teeth because they are losing anti-trust battles.

1.) I think they need to govern only the top 50-60 schools (and set the mark as a minimum of $100 in AD revenue similar to this article)

2.) Let a new organization(s) or NCAA sub organization(s) form for the next tier(s) to break the anti trust.

3.) Force scholarships to become 2 - 3 year mandatory scholarships (let the leagues decide what’s best for them - probably all choose 2 year but it creates potential parity and fights anti trust) with a total of 6 years of eligibility. The other tiers could set whatever eligibility and mandatory scholarship rules they see best.

4.) Fix the early transfer windows and signing days until after the new year (visits and contact can still occur across much of December) but it gets past postseason play and still gives those who sign time to enroll and move on campus.

5.) Allow NILs to be in house but no direct payer play. The contracts have to be service based from outside third parties (marketing/public speaking/apparel etc.) like they are now. But contracts and money become transparent. Other tiers could be direct payer play or other compensation.

6.) allow schools to compensate athletes more. Tavel expenses home. A cost of living stipend. Etc. (this can be title IX regulated and give the NCAA a win, and be a much much smaller portion of revenue sharing than what was proposed) again other tiers/divisions can decide what’s best for them.

7.) not require FULL time enrollment but only require the amount of hours it would take to graduate with an undergrad in 6 years. But the 6 total years can be applied to post graduate if they choose a full time path. Other tiers/divisions can set their own rules. Maybe allow 12 years of eligibility. Minimum 3 hours a semester. Or whatever they like.

8.) any remaining time left on their scholarship eligibility once they graduate or go to the NFL/MLB/WNBA etc. can be used at a later date by said person or passed to a child. Other tiers could choose not to do this because of longer eligibility times.

All of this would be in the effort to break the anti-trust.

What do you guys think?

ETA: a few changes in light of today
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In light of the NCAA news RE: Multi transfers

Will Collectives structure deals even more now that incentivize being here for the actual season? I know they already do to an extent. But for example, let’s say a “5 star” DL transfers in in January and agrees to a $500k deal. How much of that deal won’t kick in until September to make sure you aren’t paying him a sizable amount before he could then transfer again after the Spring.

This is mind-numbingly dumb.
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